Listening Path

Integrated Inquiry for Your Inner Landscape

We offer a contemplative space where psychology meets spiritual direction, guiding you through life's thresholds with grounded awareness and unhurried discernment.

Our Philosophy

True integration requires silence, patience, and a quiet willingness to witness what sits in the shadows. We journey with you into the inner landscape, fostering self-knowledge and grounded spiritual awareness beyond quick answers.

Sitting with the Unfolding Terrain

This practice builds health-promotive behaviors and lifestyles, social support, and psychodynamics of ritual and cognitive schemata to support profound life transitions, identity shifts, and vocational discernment.

Daily Rhythms

Spirituality tends to nudge people toward habits that support them — rest, movement, honesty, care for the body.

Belonging

A trusted relationship, even just this one, can be the beginning of feeling less alone in what you carry.

Ritual and Practice

Repeated, embodied practices — prayer, liturgy, a walk you always take — give shape and meaning to time.

The Stories You Tell Yourself

Beliefs about who you are and what your life means quietly organize how you interpret everything else. Naming them is the first step to questioning them.

Being Unsettled

Encounters with the sacred don't always feel comfortable. Sometimes growth begins with a challenge to how you saw yourself.

A Shifted Sense of Reality

People often describe seeing their circumstances differently after a season of this work — not because anything changed, but because they did.

The Sense of Someone Present

Many directees describe moments — sometimes small, sometimes overwhelming — of feeling met by something beyond themselves.

Why This Works

Our Foundation

Grounded in Depth and Practice

David and Karmen Packiam bring over five decades of shared life and ministry to their work as pastors and spiritual directors. Both hold certificates of training as Spiritual Directors from Selah, a ministry of Leadership Transformations Inc., serve as Selah Fellows, and are members of the Evangelical Spiritual Directors' Association.

They currently lead the Communion and Prayer Team and the Intercessory Team at Communion of Saints (formerly New Life Downtown) in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Before that, they pioneered and pastored The Dwelling Place, a church in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, for nineteen years.

David served as the Principal, and Karmen as the Dean of Students and lecturer, at the Royal Priesthood Bible College in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Both are graduates of Portland Bible College in Portland, Oregon.

They both received their undergraduate degrees from the National University of Singapore (NUS). David worked in public relations and advertising earlier in his career; Karmen spent many years teaching English as a second language and college-level English.

From 2014 to 2025, David also served as Chaplain at Springs Rescue Mission in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Begin Your Inquiry

Take the first step towards deeper self-knowledge and integrated spiritual awareness. We welcome your questions.